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Juventus 1 - Torino 1: Initial reaction and random observations Not even Douglas Luiz’s new hair color could save Juve from recording yet another draw in Serie A. Well, at least Juventus didn’t blow their lead late this time around. The problem was, Juve’s lead went up in smoke early enough — although not exactly well-timed when it comes to going into the halftime break with some good feelings about things — where there was plenty of time left to actually do something about it. Yet, after weathering an early second-half storm Saturday night, Juventus couldn’t convert all the chances that they did actually create. ............ That all concluded in Juventus recording a 1-1 draw against their city rivals in the second Derby della Mole of the season and officially hitting the midway point of the 2024-25 season with 12 draws in their opening 19 games. That’s right, people: With 50% of their league fixtures played — although technically not one game played against each of their 19 opponents in Serie A — Juventus have recorded a draw in 63% of those matchups. ............ It feels like we’re just in this same vicious cycle at the moment — get a lead, give up the lead and then try and scramble to get a go-ahead goal late. For as good as Kenan Yildiz’s opener was, the ability to hold onto the lead wasn’t. Torino’s goal felt almost inevitable — both because of how poorly Juve’s been holding onto leads lately and just how well those in granata were playing after falling behind. It’s not the first time that things have trended that kind of way when Thiago Motta’s side took a 1-0 lead, and you get the feeling it won’t be the last until something actually falls into place. ............ Thirteen shots and eight saves by Torino keeper Vanja Milinković-Savić in the second half alone and not one goal actually came out of it. ............ RANDOM THOUGHTS AND OBSERVATIONS It’s now been seven league fixtures since Juventus last recorded a clean sheet. Ironically, one of Juventus’ last shutouts came against Torino two months ago before the November international break. I’m pretty sure that’s the first time I’ve seen both managers sent off at the same time, let alone in the same game. You see something new every time you watch sports, I guess. ............ Yildiz isn’t scoring a ton of goals this season — this goal was his first against Serie A opposition since the first Derby della Mole back in November — but a lot of them sure are pretty special. We’re still a few months away from him no longer being a teenager, so it sure is quite fun to think about what kind of player he can be once he enters his 20s. ............ On the whole, the Gonzalez as false nine experiment went a little bit better than it has in previous games. At the very least he was usually passing it to his teammates, which is something Dusan Vlahovic has been struggling with as of late. For a guy who has barely played over the last couple of months and was making his first start since mid-October, I gotta say, Douglas Luiz did a pretty solid job. Maybe not overly outstanding, but sure wasn’t the train wreck that some of his appearances have been so far this season. Who led Juventus in key passes? That would be Douglas Luiz. ............ Who led Juventus in tackles? That would be a certain Kenan Yildiz. ............ So for a team that has 12 draws in 19 games, what are the odds of another draw against Atalanta on Tuesday? Let’s just say that even as the unbeaten run domestically to begin the Motta era continues, the odds of a draw are probably better than those for a win. Read more -> https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2025/1/11/24341461/juventus-torino-derby-della-mole-2025-serie-a-matchday-20-final-score-result-initial-reaction

Motta has an explanation for Juventus’ draw against Torino Thiago Motta has expressed his frustration after Juventus failed to secure a win against Torino this evening, dropping more points in the title race. Juventus started the season with inconsistency, struggling to turn draws into wins, and many hoped that 2025 would bring a fresh start. With a squad full of quality players, Juventus fans expected their team to do better, especially against a Torino side that has also been underperforming. The Bianconeri began the game well, taking an early lead. However, they soon allowed Torino to equalise, and despite dominating possession in the second half, Juventus failed to score the winning goal. ............ “We played well at the start, we took the lead and we dropped back a lot. We didn’t concede many chances from our opponents. We could have been more aggressive on the goal, we allowed them to get there and then Vlasic scored a nice goal. We should have closed the spaces earlier. In the second half we dominated, we had chances and we didn’t finish them. That’s why this draw came,” Motta said. ............ The draw adds to Juventus’ growing list of disappointing results in 2025, and Motta has a significant task ahead of him to turn things around. While Juventus’ quality is undeniable, they have struggled to convert that into consistent victories. ............ This result serves as another painful reminder of the challenges Juventus faces in 2025, and it will require urgent work to fix their problems and get the team back on track. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/motta-has-an-explanation-for-juventus-draw-against-torino/

Torino vs Juventus player ratings – average marks with one player standing out Michele di Gregorio – 6.5 ............ Nicolo Savona – 7.0 A good performance from the youngster, who provided the assist for Juve’s goal and remained a threat for much of the game. Federico Gatti – 6.5 ............ Pierre Kalulu – 7.0 He remains Juventus’ best defender and showed his class today, especially when Juve needed to bring the ball out from the back. Weston McKennie – 6.5 ............ Khephren Thuram – 7.0 ............ Douglas Luiz – 6.5 A busier performance from Luiz, but we need to see more from the Brazilian. Teun Koopmeiners – 6.5 He was involved in most of the good things Juve did, but he needs to score or create more goals. Samuel Mbangula – 7.0 Mbangula is improving and growing in confidence. He caused Torino all kinds of trouble in this game. Kenan Yildiz – 8.0Another solid display from Yildiz, who is probably now the most important player at Juventus. Nicolas Gonzalez – 7.0 ............ Substitutes Andrea Cambiaso – 6.5 ............ Timothy Weah – N/A ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/torino-vs-juventus-player-ratings-average-marks-with-one-player-standing-out/

Juventus frustrate once again against Torino with another draw Torino held Juventus to a 1-1 draw in Serie A this evening, dealing a big blow to the Old Lady’s title ambitions. Juventus knew they had to respond to their critics in this game and took the lead inside the first ten minutes through Kenan Yildiz. The attacker had set Juve on their way to securing a win, and the Bianconeri continued to dominate the match. Nicolas Gonzalez was the next player to put the ball in the back of the net, but Torino was relieved when it was ruled out for offside. ............ Nikola Vlasic’s shot ricocheted off the bar and in, but Torino deserved the equaliser as they had responded well to Juve taking the lead. That late first-half goal shocked Juve, but it was Torino who looked the more dangerous side after the break, coming close a few times to taking the lead. However, the Bianconeri gradually began to regain a foothold in the game, only for Thiago Motta and Paolo Vanoli to be sent off. Now without their manager, Juve had to find a way to win. They continued to dominate the game and created some good chances, with Nicolas Gonzalez and Kenan Yildiz testing Vanja Milinkovic-Savic. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-frustrate-once-again-against-torino-with-another-draw/

Quando a Nedved viene chiesto com'è avvenuto il suo approdo in Arabia, la risposta è immediata: "Molto semplice, perché amo questi colori", con tanto di sorriso a seguire. L'Al-Shabab, infatti, ha come colori sociali il bianco e il nero, esattamente come la Juve: una frase che, sui social, ha fatto impazzire i tifosi juventini.

I vertici della Juve vogliono un ridimensionamento?

Ma sei ancora qui?

Una lentezza di manovra impressionante. Non la vogliono vincere. Il pari va bene ad entrambe a quanto pare.

Avrá preso qualcosa di eccitante per essere cosí "carico"? Cappitto mi hai?

Vedi cosa succede, Cairo, a sparare porcate sui derby rubati? Vanoli si é lamentato fin dall'inizio come un invasato.

Hanno perso la testa

Ma gli allenatori si picchiano?

Ma non stava aspettando la panchina della nazionale francese? Deschamps ha anche annunciato la sua partenza.

É vera sta storia di Zidane alla Juve?

L'hanno pareggiata

Urbano, ti stiamo rubando anche questo derby?

Kenan, la bestia nera di Vanja ..... Gol anche all'andata

Perché gioca piú vicino alla porta?

KENAN YILDIZ 0-1

Pavan insists Juventus can have no excuses today they must win Massimo Pavan has made it clear that Juventus cannot afford any excuses if they fail to beat Torino in the derby today. After a difficult start to 2025, this match presents the Bianconeri with an opportunity to bounce back from their disappointing loss to AC Milan. ............ Pavan said, “I’m sorry about the situation but today there are no more excuses, just win. This applies to everyone, from players to staff and coach. I think of Koopmeiners and Douglas Luiz, they should be the flagship and they haven’t shown their value yet, today they have to do it, there are no other ways, other games. The team has had time to rest, a week, now they need a signal. Unfortunately, the bench is not like Juve, three players plus Rouhi and Adzic are not enough. Today if we draw it is like having lost, I would pay for a decisive goal by Koopmeiners.” His words underline the high stakes of the game. A draw, in his view, would be as disappointing as a loss. The expectation is clear: Juventus must secure all three points. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/pavan-insists-juventus-can-have-no-excuses-today-they-must-win/

Motta is trying Kenan Yildiz in a new role as injuries ravage Juventus Juventus could be without some key players when they face Torino in Serie A this weekend, making the game even more crucial for the Old Lady. The Bianconeri will need a strong tactical approach from Thiago Motta to defeat their city rivals and keep their ambitions alive in the league. With the pressure mounting, the last thing Juventus needs right now is to lose any of their key players, and unfortunately, they will be without Francisco Conceicao and Dusan Vlahovic for the upcoming match. ............ The Bianconeri have been trialling Kenan Yildiz in the attacking role that Conceicao usually occupies during training sessions. Motta is reportedly confident in the young talent’s abilities, believing that Yildiz can step up and fill the void left by Conceicao’s injury. When Conceicao pulled out of the Super Cup semi-final after injuring himself in the warm-up, it was Yildiz who was called upon to replace him in the team. This could be the case again when Juventus face Torino this weekend. While the loss of Conceicao is a blow to the team, Yildiz has shown glimpses of his potential and could very well prove himself capable of performing well for Juve. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/motta-is-trying-kenan-yildiz-in-a-new-role-as-injuries-ravage-juventus/

Ma per te le orecchie sono un'ossessione? .......

Torino vs Juventus: Preview and Prediction The 183rd Turin Derby is on the horizon, and Juventus will aim to keep their unbeaten run going in Serie A this season when they visit neighbours Torino. Torino will have to dig deep to know when they last beat Juventus in Serie A, as it will take them back to April 2015, when goals from Matteo Darmian and Fabio Quagliarella proved enough for all three points. That win was also the only one in their last 36 games against the Bianconeri, and they have lost 27 in that run. Beating Juventus has become a distant dream for most of the Torino supporters, although the home crowd will once again be behind their team to make it happen. ............ Thiago Motta will be wary of the narrative building around his team in the background and arrest their most recent slump in form. Juventus are steadily heading out of the title race despite being unbeaten in Serie A this season, as they have had an incredible eleven draws this season. At the same time, their seven wins are about half of what league leaders Atantala have. Those dropped points have killed off an early promise in the season, with Motta seeking answers for this kind of results. Before Juventus headed off to Saudi Arabia for the Supercoppa Italiana, they managed to draw another game against current top-four rivals Fiorentina, which potentially halted a run of two consecutive victories in all competitions. ............ Team News & Tactics Torino ............ Probable Lineup (3-4-2-1): Milinkovic-Savic; Vojvoda, Maripan, Coco; Lazaro, Ricci, Ilic, Sosa; Karamoh, Vlasic; Adams Juventus Thiago Motta will be sweating over the fitness of key attackers like Dusan Vlahovic and Francisco Conceicao, although the former is still expected to feature. The duo have been training individually, although the Serb’s problem is not considered serious at this time and will feature. Juventus do have long-term absentees in Juan Cabal, Arkadiusz Milik and Gleison Bremer. Key midfielder Manuel Locatelli is suspended for this derby, meaning Premier League-linked Douglas Luiz might get a rare start alongside Khephren Thuram in Juventus’s midfield. Kenan Yildiz could make way for Samuel Mbangula on the left wing, while the Turkish international could potentially move to the right to cover for Conceicao. Teun Koopmeiners will reprise the attacking midfield role in support of Vlahovic up front. Danilo remains out of the current project and is expected to depart sooner rather than later, meaning Nicolo Savona and Weston McKennie are expected in the full-back positions. Pierre Kalulu and Federico Gatti are the starting central defenders for Motta at the moment. Probable Lineup (4-2-3-1): Di Gregorio; Savona, Gatti, Kalulu, McKennie; Luiz, Thuram; Yildiz, Koopmeiners, Mbangula; Vlahovic Key Stats Torino have been winless against Juventus since April 2015. Torino have lost 27 of their last 36 appearances against Juventus in the League. Juventus are undefeated in their last 26 matches in Serie A. Juventus have drawn 11 games this season in the Serie A. Player to Watch Douglas Luiz The absence of Manuel Locatelli with a suspension does open the doors for Luiz to make an impact and show his levels to Thiago Motta. In the last few days, talks of a return to the Premier League has gained momentum with the Brazilian midfielder, and the manager might give him a chance to show what he’s capable of. Meanwhile, Juventus need inspiration from somewhere to steer the side to winning games, and Motta will be tired of draws this season. Whether Luiz can be that player to help balance this side’s attack and defence, to help them gain a valuable win remains to be seen, although this derby is a big opportunity for the Brazilian to show what he can do. Prediction Torino 0-2 Juventus Torino are in for another important derby, although this time, they will hope to make an impact in the most positive way possible and will certainly dream of a first win in nearly a decade. However, their form is not in a favourable run, meaning this could be another long night for the home fans to endure. As per our prediction, this game could be a repeat of the reverse fixture this season when Juventus ended up as 2-0 winners. They certainly have an edge in quality and will use that against their neighbours to end their slump of drawing games and get back in the mix at the very top. . Read more -> https://thehardtackle.com/round-up/2025/01/11/torino-vs-juventus-preview-and-prediction-2/