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Jorgensen da rosso diretto.

F.C. KOBENHAVN - JUVENTUS September 17, 2013 8:45 PM Parken Stadium — Copenhagen Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia) HT 1-0: Juve trail in Copenhagen Sep 17, 2013 Juventus had numerous chances in Copenhagen and forced amazing saves, but are trailing 1-0 at half-time. http://markting10.nl/ The Bianconeri began their Champions League campaign in Denmark, where last season they were held to a 1-1 draw by Norsdjaelland. Mirko Vucinic, Kwadwo Asamoah and Andrea Barzagli were rested in favour of Fabio Quagliarella, Federico Peluso and Angelo Ogbonna, while Claudio Marchisio, Martin Caceres and Simone Pepe were injured. Copenhagen were champions of Denmark, but had a terrible start to their domestic season, managing only seven points from eight games. It was Copenhagen who broke the deadlock with Nicolai Jorgensen, who was able to bundle the ball over the line from four yards after a Pierre Bengtsson free kick was not dealt with properly. There was almost an equaliser moments later, but Johan Wiland spilled a Carlos Tevez shot and Quagliarella tested him on the follow-up. Juve had a double scoring opportunity denied by amazing Wiland saves. First the 32-year-old goalkeeper fingertipped Giorgio Chiellini’s header over from point-blank range, then from the resulting corner used his knee to deflect a Paul Pogba effort over the bar from a couple of yards. Tevez curled off target and Pogba’s header was inches wide, while Stephan Lichtsteiner scuffed his volley from a very promising position. Copenhagen 1-0 Juventus (Half-Time) Scorers: Jorgensen 14' Copenhagen: Wiland; Jacobsen, Mellberg, R Sigurdsson, Bengtsson; Bolanos, Claudemir, Delaney, Braaten; Adi, N Jorgensen Juventus: Buffon; Bonucci, Ogbonna, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Peluso; Quagliarella, Tevez Ref: Bebek (CRO)

Marotta: 'Pogba and Vidal bids' Sep 17, 2013 Beppe Marotta reveals Juventus “turned down” Arturo Vidal and Paul Pogba offers and are targeting Champions League success. The general manager spoke to Mediaset Premium ahead of tonight’s Champions League opener in Copenhagen. http://markting10.nl/ “Are Juventus outsiders for the trophy? When Juventus take part in a competition, whether it’s the Scudetto or the Champions League, they must always target the maximum result. A lot also depends on possible favourable circumstances, mind you.” This evening Mirko Vucinic, Andrea Barzagli and Kwadwo Asamoah are rested, but there is still no starting spot for Fernando Llorente. “When we signed him we were well aware that he’d barely played for a year. Antonio Conte will use him when he is physically in good shape. “Vidal is a very valuable player to us and always gives his contribution. The transfer market is irrational at times, but we have never actually decided what he’s worth. Real Madrid asked for Vidal, but we turned them down. We never even discussed a possible sale.” The same is true of Paul Pogba, who also starts in Denmark tonight and is in talks for a contract extension. “His explosion was somewhat unexpected, even if there were signs at Manchester United two years ago,” continued Marotta. “Conte has been able to get the best out of him, so what I said about Vidal also applies to Pogba. These are players who form the solid core of the side. Yes, we did turn down important offers for Pogba. “We had signed a contract with him promising to revisit it when he became a star. Right now he deserves a raise.”

Giocatori terrorizzati .... sanno giá come li tratterá Conte negli spogliatoi.

Lichsteiner ...

Siamo irriconoscibili.

Peró Marianella non é in campo ...

Tevez tenta il gran goal ma non va.

Non credo che vinceremo 6-1.

Bonucci gira alto.

Che parata di Wyland su Chiello.

F.C. KOBENHAVN - JUVENTUS September 17, 2013 8:45 PM Parken Stadium — Copenhagen Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia) Fabio Quagliarella starts for Juventus against Copenhagen Sep 17, 2013 Juventus coach Antonio Conte has included Fabio Quagliarella in his starting lineup for his side's Champions League clash against Copenhagen in Denmark tonight. http://markting10.nl/ The Italian striker will start alongside Carlos Tevez in attack for the Serie A champions, with Fernando Llorente left on the bench. Paul Pogba, Andrea Pirlo and Arturo Vidal all start in midfield for Juventus. Meanwhile, Copenhagen have former Bianconeri defender Olof Mellberg in their lineup for the sold-out clash at the Parken Stadium. COPENHAGEN: Wiland; Jacobsen, Mellberg, R Sigurdsson, Bengtsson; Bolanos, Claudemir, Delaney, Braaten; Adi, N Jorgensen Subs: Jensen, Margreitter, Remmer, Kristensen, Gislason, Santin, Toutouh JUVENTUS: Buffon; Bonucci, Ogbonna, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Peluso; Quagliarella, Tevez Subs: Storari, De Ceglie, Padoin, Asamoah, Isla, Giovinco, Llorente.

Abbraccio Buffon-Mellberg. @@

Che bella la maglietta da riscaldamento della Juve. @@

Magari 2.

Io la sto vedendo sulla Svizzera italiana in streaming .... c'é Zambrotta ospite in studio.

F.C. KOBENHAVN - JUVENTUS September 17, 2013 8:45 PM Parken Stadium — Copenhagen Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia) Line-ups: Copenhagen-Juventus Sep 17, 2013 Juventus begin their Champions League campaign in Copenhagen with a reshuffled side. The Bianconeri kick off at the Parken Stadium at 20.45. http://markting10.nl/ Andrea Barzagli and Mirko Vucinic played in the 1-1 draw with Inter on Saturday despite knocks, so are rested in Denmark along with Kwadwo Asamoah. Claudio Marchisio, Martin Caceres and Simone Pepe are all still on the treatment table, so Angelo Ogbonna, Federico Peluso and Fabio Quagliarella step into the starting XI. Juve will be hoping for a better showing than last season, when they were held 1-1 by Nordsjaelland in Copenhagen. The Danes have had a difficult start to their season, picking up just seven points from eight League matches. Their line-up includes former Juve defender Olof Mellberg. The 38,000-seater stadium is sold out, though only 900 of those are expected to be travelling Juventus fans. COPENHAGEN: Wiland; Jacobsen, Mellberg, R Sigurdsson, Bengtsson; Bolanos, Claudemir, Delaney, Braaten; Adi, N Jorgensen Copenhagen bench: Jensen, Margreitter, Remmer, Kristensen, Gislason, Santin, Toutouh JUVENTUS: Buffon; Bonucci, Ogbonna, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Peluso; Quagliarella, Tevez Juventus bench: Storari, De Ceglie, Padoin, Asamoah, Isla, Giovinco, Llorente

F.C. KOBENHAVN - JUVENTUS September 17, 2013 8:45 PM Parken Stadium — Copenhagen Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia) Copenhagen & Juve UEFA CL Updates Sep 17, 2013 If we didn’t know for sure, we do now: Mauro Icardi is an official Juve villain. We were put on watch when he scored three goals against us last season for Sampdoria (two at Juventus Stadium). But nothing provides confirmation like scoring a goal for Inter in a Derby d’Italia. http://markting10.nl/ Thankfully, Juve’s “bete noire” (as the press are calling him) was neutralized by our own white knight, Arturo Vidal, who equalized minutes later with a quietly incredible strike through four defenders, allowing Juve to leave San Siro with a hard-fought point. But forget the Derby for now. Tonight, the Bianconeri address the more important matter of Champions League glory. The dream begins with this evening’s group stage encounter with Copenhagen, as Juventus look to take what they’ve learned from the joys and sorrows of last season’s final-eight performance in Europe’s top competition, determined to get as close as possible to winning it all. Copenhagen Update: Quagliarella’s Turn? Antonio Conte is contemplating some smart turnover for tonight’s CL opener. In an effort to both rest ailing starters Andrea Barzagli and Mirko Vucinic, as well as provide some crucial European experience for Angelo Ogbonna (in a relatively low-pressure, non-Real Madrid environment), the Juve coach is considering starts for both Ogbonna and Fabio Quagliarella, according to several Italian sources. Fabio looks to be ready, if his performance against Inter was any indication. He certainly claims to be, according to Sky Sport Italia (via Football Italia): The Coach, as always, makes his decisions. But my objective is to do well in training and convince him to pick me game after game. I’m always ready. When the Coach decides that I need to start a game or come on as a substitute, he knows that he can calmly rely on me. If he decides that it is my turn to play then there would be no problem at all. Starting both Quagliarella and Ogbonna would be a good move. The former is not shy on European nights, as evidenced by his heroics vs. Chelsea last year. And as mentioned above, this is the perfect opportunity for Ogbonna: a chance to play in a “big” European match that will nevertheless (hopefully) allow for a few rookie mistakes. As you would expect for such an important match, Andrea Pirlo will start in midfield, but there’s good news on the horizon for those of us who think he’s being flogged to death week after week: Our architect will likely start from the bench next weekend against Verona. In tacit acknowledgment of their relative unfamiliarity with Copenhagen (see the official site’s summary of the Danish side’s recent exploits for what little we know), Gigi Buffon focused more on Juve’s general goals for this year’s European campaign (via Juventus.com): Winning a Champions League is an exceptional achievement, and something that hasn’t happened too often for us and other great teams. Managing to lift the trophy would be hugely satisfying, not from a personal point of view, but for the whole environment here: fans, club and teammates.” I’m intrigued to see if we’re able to follow up the good things we did last year and improve the results we managed to gain. On paper you could say we’ve developed since then. We’ve got two important years behind us and the club have strengthened the team in the transfer market. But proof of this can only come from what happens on the pitch and it will be our enthusiasm and desire to keep surprising that will confirm this feeling. Juve may be intent on surprising this year, but the group stage will certainly provide some surprises of its own. This current squad knows very well not to underestimate a side like Copenhagen, who are capable of providing the same stiff competition as Shakhtar Donetsk and compatriots Nordsjaelland did last season. “Minnow” is a relative term, especially in the Champions League. Beware, Bianconeri. FORZA JUVE!!! Conte & the Champions League: Learning from Experience Antonio Conte expects his men and himself to learn from last year’s Champions League experience — especially from their struggles in the early group stage. The Bianconeri’s eventual triumph vs. Celtic and sobering defeat at the hands of Bayern Munich in the knockout stages was certainly not a foregone conclusion after the first three matchdays of the 2012-13 campaign. Needing a valiant comeback just to draw with Chelsea and suffering shock stalemates with Nordsjaelland and Shakhtar, Juventus were staring down the very real prospect of crashing out prematurely. As stated in his press conference yesterday (via Juventus.com), Conte is well aware of the need to start brightly: The last time we were here we only managed to clinch a point right at the end and risked our chances of getting out of the group stages. You have just six games and it’s always difficult to bounce back from any slip-ups. Danish champions FC Copenhagen have strangely struggled for form so far this season and even fired a coach in August. Antonio is baffled by this turn of events, but is wisely preparing for a club at their best: I’m struggling to understand why Copenhagen find themselves in the position they’re currently in. We’ve studied them well, they play good football and always appear to have something over their opponents, even if the final outcome hasn’t always been positive. So we’ll need to pay great attention to them, taking heed of what happened here last year. Conte finds his squad to be comfortably placed in their group in terms of CL expectations. Real Madrid’s presence makes Juve automatic underdogs, which will take a bit of pressure off the Bianconeri and allow to initially focus solely on progressing further than last season: It’s a fascinating group. Real Madrid, who have been chasing their tenth Champions League title for years and continue to spend heavily, will be regarded as favourites, at least on paper. We’ll be battling it out with Galatasaray for second place, but we’ll also need to pay attention to Copenhagen, who could cause an upset. We know that there’s still a way to go and a year’s added experience will help us. We’ll be outsiders, but a dangerous outsider for anyone to face. We know who we are and how far we can go. We won’t place limits on our progress, but we’ll maintain a level of realism which will enable us to keep our feet on the ground. Of course, the onset of the Champions League fixtures means that the Bianconeri will run through a bit of a gauntlet over the next month: seven matches in 25 days (including Saturday’s match with Inter). So, then, the inevitable question: Who’s going to rest, and when? Also, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO REST PIRLO? The answer to that last question might easily be “when Marchisio comes back.” But let’s let Antonio answer for himself: It’s inevitable that I’ll rotate the side in this important period, looking to grant rest to those who need it in order to have them ready for the next game. What won’t change, however, is our philosophy. Pirlo doesn’t need a break at present and will start tomorrow. I believe you can change a maximum of four players at a time, in order to avoid upsetting the balance of the side too much, but I’m convinced I’ll get the right responses from everyone. Last season’s mild turnover can partly be excused by the lack of “quality” in the side, but as far as the media and most tifosi are concerned, there are no such excuses this year. Making turnover decisions is a dangerous game, and Conte will be playing it with ever-higher stakes for both the club’s future and his own. Giuseppe Marotta and Fabio Paratici have arguably given him what he wanted over the summer. And sure, those signings have to pay off, which is mostly down to the signings themselves. But if Juventus are expected to arrive at the promised “next level” as a club, then Conte is expected to arrive there as a coach, too. Part of that will entail tactically outwitting the Bayerns, Barcelonas and Real Madrids of the world. But an equally important part will be ensuring that Juve are physically and mentally rested enough to not only balance the demands of multiple important campaigns, but be devastatingly effective in each one. This season was designed to be an evolutionary one for Juve, but no less of one for Conte himself. He is very much ready to be a next-level coach. The next level starts tonight. Previously in Denmark… Historically, Juve have had precious few adventures on Danish soil, and never with the same club. Tonight will see only the third Bianconeri encounter with a Danish side. The first occurred on September 15, 1982 in the last-16 of what was then known as the European cup (I’m figuring this is before Heineken took Europe hostage). Here’s the summary from the official site: A Juve side with six recent world champions, not to mention Michel Platini and Zbigniew Boniek, lined up against Hvidovre for a place in the European Cup quarter-final. Giovanni Trapattoni’s adventurous attacking formation paid dividends as the Bianconeri ran out 4-1 winners, with goals from Platini, Paolo Rossi, Sergio Brio and Antonio Cabrini putting the Danes to the sword. Interestingly enough, that fixture became the inspiration for a character in the Danish film Italian for Beginners: Curiously, the game came to have an impact on Lone Scherfig’s 2000 film “Italiano per principianti”. Telling the story of a tiny community living in the Copenhagen suburbs that go to an Italian-speaking school, it features a powerful example of absolute love for the Bianconeri: one of the main characters is a waiter who practically lives in the Juventus shirt after watching the team beat Hvidovre. Of course, you’ll remember the second Danish encounter, which took place last year at tonight’s venue, Parken Stadium, against Nordsjaelland, who played us to a draw: Although the hosts took the lead through a Mikkel Beckmann free kick, the Bianconeri fought back and found an equaliser when Mirko Vucinic converted Mauricio Isla’s cross from the right-hand side 10 minutes from the end. The Nordsjaelland draw snapped Juve out of their stupor, spurring them on to eventually top the group. Let’s hope this group stage never sees Juve in such dire straits in the first place. Speaking of history, tonight’s official, Ivan Bebek of Croatia, has handled only one Bianconeri match, that being a 2-1 win at Ajax during the very painful Europa League campaign of 2010. His linesmen will be Tomislav Petrovic and Miro Grgic, while Dalibor Conjar will be fourth official (and will hopefully remind Conte to use his substitutes). From the Enemy Camp: Copenhagen Speaks! Copenhagen find themselves in a strange place at the moment — which could be very dangerous for our Bianconeri. Defending champions of the Danish Superliga, FC Copenhagen have nevertheless found themselves at the bottom of table following a disastrous start to the domestic season, their coach replaced by a returning hero. Stale Solbakken recently returned for a second spell in charge, hoping to add to the success of his first. Copenhagen won five league titles between 2006 and 2011, all under Solbakken’s stewardship. His return has already had a galvanizing effect on the squad, who are finally starting to see some positive results towards a successful defense of the Danish crown. Now Solbakken turns his attention to the Champions League, hoping for a big scalp or two to further boost his club’s domestic confidence (via Juventus.com): Getting a result tomorrow could represent the turning point of our entire season. We’re focusing on the three games that we’ll be playing at home, even though we’re perhaps in the most difficult group. Juventus need to win at all costs and perhaps we’ll be able to surprise them. We hope to do the same against Galatasaray. We’ll be playing against superior sides, but perhaps they might underestimate us. We need to believe we can do it, otherwise we won’t get a result. We need to stick to our own game plan, have plenty of belief and play to the best of our abilities. If we do just that, who knows, we could well spring a surprise. “Who knows” indeed. The above quote should be a lyric in the official Champions League song. Although Bianconeri tifosi may be unfamiliar with Copenhagen as a club, they should recognize one relatively friendly face from TDDBC (The Dark Days Before Conte): Olof Mellberg. Asked about his time at Juve, Mellberg’s response was to marvel at the complete overhaul in personnel and philosophy: The team has changed a great deal since I was there. Back then they had plenty of experienced players, such as Del Piero, Trezeguet, Camoranesi and Nedved. Now they’re a younger group and have changed their style of play. Only Buffon, Chiellini, Marchisio, Giovinco and De Ceglie have remained from my spell in Turin. It’s a completely different side and I think they’ve improved. As for the match itself, Conte’s relentless tactical drills should come in handy, if Mellberg’s assessment of Copenhagen’s readiness for tonight is any indication (of course, he could be laying a trap!): It will be difficult because we haven’t had much time on the training ground to prepare specifically for this clash. But we’ll give it our best shot and try and get a result. We’re aware of the dangers that we could potentially come up against. I played against Carlos Tevez when he was at Manchester United and tomorrow will be a tough battle against a striker of his quality. You know what they say about wounded animals, so I won’t repeat it here (and I’ll also pretend it applies to football clubs). Suffice it to say that Copenhagen is exactly the type of club to trip up a Champions League hopeful or two with a bravura performance, especially at home. If Juve want to avoid the more desperate moments of last year’s group stage, they must leave nothing to chance and dispatch Copenhagen as quickly as possible. The last thing we need is for things to get “interesting.”

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F.C. KOBENHAVN - JUVENTUS September 17, 2013 8:45 PM Parken Stadium — Copenhagen Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia) Champions League Preview: Juventus vs. FC Copenhagen It all begins again Sep 17, 2013 THE CHAMPIONS!!!! http://markting10.nl/ Juventus were drawn into a tough group in this season's edition of the Champions League. Am I going out on a limb with that last sentence? Nah, I don't think so. It's not very often three teams that made it into the quarterfinals the previous season meet the next time around. There's also this: Juventus don't have to play any of those two to begin the group stage. Instead, Juventus have made a trip to Denmark for the second straight year. But don't worry, there won't be the struggle to figure out how the hell to spell "Nordsjælland" on a regular basis. (And, for the record, I am glad about that.) No, it's just simple spelling this time around, with Juve's trip to Denmark seeing them play FC Copenhagen in the Group B opener for both teams. While their trip to play Nordsjælland last season was Juve's return to European football, this time the journey to Denmark comes with serious expectations. Juve have added to their squad this summer, reinforcing what was already a Champions League quarterfinalist and two-time defending Serie A champions. Now, Antonio Conte is looking to build on what is a damn good foundation. Go right ahead, Mister. You won't find me complaining about wanting to go even further in the Champions League. GOOD NEWS Juventus are opening the group stages with FC Copenhagen instead of Real Madrid. Say what you want about opening with a challenge, but I'll take the very good chance to get three points straight away every day of the week. BAD NEWS Injuries. Martin Caceres (knee surgery), Claudio Marchisio (knee ligament), Simone Pepe (thigh strain) and Rubinho (pelvic muscle strain) are all recovering from their respective problems. Fun! And the schedule is busy again. Seven games in about a month. That's rough — with or without the current injuries Juventus are dealing with. More on that in a little bit. WHAT TO WATCH FOR 1. Just how pissed off Juventus are after a Derby d'Italia draw over the weekend. Antonio Conte likes to win. I like that Antonio Conte likes to win. I think everybody likes that Antonio Conte likes to win. Well, those of us who root for this great club, but I'm not so sure about the others. And even though Conte was pleased with his team's effort against Inter on Saturday, it wasn't a win — and therefore Il Mister can't be completely satisfied...right? This is a great chance for Juve to start Group B action on a really good note and get all three points right out of the shoot before the tougher group games arrive. I'm sure they realize that, and want to have all three points possible in their pocket when they get on the plane back to Turin. 2. The condition of Mirko Vucinic. After hearing for a week leading up to the derby about Vucinic's injury status and availability, Vucinic was available on Saturday and his performance was, uh, not so good. Maybe that's just Mirko being Mirko and following the trajectory of his career, I dunno. But with everything that was going on during the week and having to shake off an injury in such a short period of time, it's hard to think it didn't play some kind of role — significant or minor — in his performance. 3. The striker situation. I could, realistically, say this in every preview I write up in the same kind of fashion I did a season ago. But this time, it's not because we don't know who will play on consistent basis. Carlos Tevez will play much more often than he won't. I could go on and on about Fernando Llorente needing a chance to show what he's capable of just to shut people up, but I won't. For all I know, Conte could be planning on changing things for the simple fact of squad rotation and that will be that. Much like the Inter preview, this is basically tied to Vucinic — if he's deemed healthy enough to play, Mirko will most likely play. It's as simple as that. 4. Which Andrea Pirlo shows up. Conte has made his stand, and we know the maestro is playing. Now that we've established that Pirlo is playing, let's talk about how he hasn't been the player we've come to know since he arrived the last couple of weeks. Pirlo's not on his best form. That's not some wild theory I'm throwing out there right now, either. The amount of misplaced passes are starting to add up. So are the amount of turnovers he's committing. Conte says he doesn't need rest, so we'll go with that. But I'm just going to sit here and wonder what a night off might do if that okay with all of you. It's not like giving Pirlo a break has helped in the last year or two. Oh wait... 5. The condition of Olof Mellberg's world-class viking beard. Because before Pirlo's beard, there was Mellberg's beard. And since we'll be seeing an old friend tomorrow night, there's no reason not to pay attention to his glorious facial hair. 6. How much Conte actually rotates the squad — now and in the future. From Conte's post-match interview on Saturday night: "I'll need to call on everyone and will rotate the side the side when the moment's right, with the league championship in mind as our realistic objective. I definitely couldn't rotate in a match against Inter." So, he's established that he will rotate things. How much? That's still to be seen. But it's something I expected him to do more often a year ago and it didn't happen as much as it probably should have. Has Conte learned? I don't know. That's just something he's going to actually have to prove to me — and a lot of other folks around these parts — before we truly believe that squad rotation is going to be happening when the schedule is busy like it currently is. Even with some of his better players injured right now, Conte has the depth at his disposal. It's time to take advantage of it. My starting XI (3-5-2): Buffon; Ogbonna, Bonucci, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Asamoah; Llorente (?), Tevez OFFICIAL KICKOFF TIME: 8:45 P.M. IN ITALY; 2:45 P.M. ON THE EAST COAST; 11:45 A.M. ON THE WEST COAST

F.C. KOBENHAVN - JUVENTUS September 17, 2013 8:45 PM Parken Stadium — Copenhagen Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia) Juventus probable XI v Copenhagen Sep 17, 2013 Angelo Ogbonna and Fabio Quagliarella are expected to be named in the Juventus starting XI against Copenhagen in the Champions League on Tuesday. http://markting10.nl/ Boss Antonio Conte is being tipped to make two changes to the side who began the 1-1 draw at Inter on Saturday. Ogbonna and Quagliarella will replace Andrea Barzagli and Mirko Vucinic, players who only appeared at the weekend after passing late fitness tests. Ogbonna, signed in the summer from Torino, is expected to play in the middle of the back-three which will see Leonardo Bonucci moved to the right of the trio. Italian international Ogbonna has never played in the Champions League before. Paul Pogba will again be handed a starting shirt as Claudio Marchisio is still sidelined with the injury he picked up in the Italian Super Cup Final. Juventus probable: Buffon; Bonucci, Ogbonna, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Asamoah; Quagliarella, Tevez.