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  1. Juventus adds Chelsea star to their summer shopping list Juventus are preparing for another busy transfer window this summer as they look to reinforce their squad ahead of the new season. Despite already making several signings last summer, the Bianconeri find themselves under pressure to make further improvements. ............ With competition expected to be fierce in the market, Juventus are working quickly to position itself ahead of its rivals in the pursuit of top targets. One name that has emerged as a serious option is Chelsea’s Christopher Nkunku, who has found limited opportunities in England since his move from RB Leipzig. ............ Juventus are now closely monitoring Nkunku’s situation and is interested in adding him to its ranks. The attacker’s limited game time in England could make a move appealing from his perspective as well, especially with the opportunity to play more regularly in Italy. Juventus see Nkunku as a versatile forward who could offer much-needed creativity and movement in their final third. However, there is an understanding within the club that caution is necessary. Nkunku’s form at Leipzig demonstrated his potential, but his struggles at Chelsea raise concerns about whether he can replicate that level in Serie A. Nkunku’s availability presents Juventus with a potential bargain, but the club must be careful not to repeat past mistakes by investing in players who do not fit their system. The Bianconeri will be evaluating his fitness and consistency carefully before committing to any formal move. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-adds-chelsea-star-to-their-summer-shopping-list/
  2. OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL: Pierre Kalulu gets two-match ban for red card vs. Lazio We have not seen the last of Pierre Kalulu in a Juventus shirt since we all expect him to be made a permanent part of the roster in a matter of weeks. But when it comes to the on-loan Frenchman’s participation in the 2024-25 season, it will now all be referred to in the past tense. And at a time in which Juve can’t afford to be losing any more players, too. But this is the result of Kalulu getting show a straight red card for his violent conduct in the second half of Juventus’ 1-1 draw with Lazio this past weekend at the Stadio Olimpico. Just as was the case with Kenan Yildiz when he was sent off against Monza 2 1⁄2 weeks ago, Kalulu was handed a two-match ban, and with the timing of which it has come down it means that one of the few healthy center backs that Juventus actually have on the roster will miss the season’s final two games against Udinese and relegation-threatened Venezia. Kalulu will not be the only Juventus player suspended for the Bianconeri’s final home fixture of the campaign, with Khephren Thuram and Nicolo Savona also serving one-match bans for yellow card accumulation. ............ Juve interim manager Igor Tudor will likely have to get creative when it comes to his starting lineup against Udinese this coming Sunday. It could very well mean somebody like Locatelli has to play in the center of Tudor’s three-man backline along with Gatti and Renato Veiga, the only two central defenders who are likely to be available this weekend. . Read more -> https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2025/5/13/24429489/official-juventus-pierre-kalulu-gets-two-match-ban-for-red-card-vs-lazio-2025-serie-a-team-news
  3. Has Juventus made a definite decision on Dusan Vlahovic? Juventus have been engaged in discussions with Dusan Vlahovic over a potential contract extension, but those negotiations appear to have reached an impasse. The Serbian striker and the club have not found common ground, and recent developments suggest that a renewal is increasingly unlikely. Vlahovic is currently under contract with the Bianconeri, and the terms of his existing deal stipulate that he will earn 12 million euros in the final year, beginning on 30 June. ............ The club’s proposal to lower Vlahovic’s salary has not been received favourably by the player and his representatives. As a result, negotiations have been paused, with no agreement in sight. For the moment, all parties are focusing on ending the season on a high, with Champions League qualification being the top priority. Nonetheless, it appears that Juventus may no longer be optimistic about keeping the striker. The club has effectively abandoned plans to retain Vlahovic beyond his current deal. The report claims that after rejecting revised contract terms, the striker is now expected to be sold, with Juventus actively seeking a buyer once the campaign concludes. ............ The decision to offload Vlahovic stems not only from his contractual demands but also from his lacklustre form in front of goal. The striker, once regarded as one of Europe’s brightest attacking talents, has failed to live up to expectations this season. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/has-juventus-made-a-definite-decision-on-dusan-vlahovic/
  4. Gatti shows dedication to the task ahead by what he did this week Federico Gatti made a welcome return to action for Juventus in their recent fixture against Lazio following a spell on the sidelines through injury. The centre-back has been one of the few consistent figures in a season that has offered limited highlights for the Bianconeri. ............ The final two matches of the campaign present new challenges for Juventus, who are dealing with further defensive setbacks. Pierre Kalulu will be unavailable after receiving a red card at the weekend, and Nicolo Savona is also ruled out due to suspension from accumulated yellow cards. These absences place even more importance on Gatti’s availability. ............ A report highlights Gatti’s commitment to returning to full fitness. While other players enjoyed a scheduled day off, the defender chose to attend the club’s training ground and train alone. This proactive approach underlines his dedication and readiness to contribute fully to the team’s remaining fixtures. ............ Gatti’s work ethic has not gone unnoticed. His decision to train during the break speaks volumes about his professionalism and desire to perform at his best when called upon. As one of the club’s more dependable players, his return could prove pivotal in navigating the challenges of the final games. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/gatti-shows-dedication-to-the-task-ahead-by-what-he-did-this-week/
  5. OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL: Jeep, Visit Detroit are Juventus’ new shirt sponsors After a year of having no official front-of-shirt sponsor, Juventus are going back to an old friend. At the same time, they are also welcoming in a new one, with the front of Juve’s jersey set to be a little more crowded for the next few years. Juventus announced Tuesday that they have agreed to a dual front-of-shirt sponsorship deal with Jeep — who served in the same role for over a decade up until last spring — and Visit Detroit, the convention and visitors bureau for the Motor City and surrounding area. The deal with Jeep and Visit Detroit will run through 2028 and has a total value of €69 million, according to a press release from Juventus. The deal includes Juve wearing both logos on the front of the jersey for domestic competition (Serie A and Coppa Italia), with only Jeep set to be worn in European competition (and other international tournaments like the Club World Cup) as a result of UEFA rules permitting just one main sponsor on the front of a club’s jersey. The announcement of the deal with Jeep and Visit Detroit comes a day before Juventus will unveil their home kit for the 2025-26 season, one they will debut this Sunday when they play Udinese at the Allianz Stadium. ............ The total of €69 million for the deal is less than the last reports we heard in mid-April when Reuters said Juventus’ agreement with Jeep and Visit Detroit would be worth €25 million a season. We first heard that Jeep could be making a comeback to the front of Juventus’ jerseys at the beginning of April, with the Visit Detroit component also coming to light at the same time. Jeep was previously Juventus front-of-shirt sponsor from 2012 until the end of the 2023-24 season. ............ . Read more -> https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2025/5/13/24429555/official-jeep-visit-detroit-are-juventus-new-shirt-sponsors-2025-serie-a-champions-league-team-news
  6. How Juventus can secure a Champions League spot before the final game Juventus remain in fourth place on the Serie A table despite recording two consecutive draws in their most recent matches. The Bianconeri continue to face difficulties in securing victories, and the race for the final Champions League qualification spot is becoming increasingly competitive. Several clubs are contending for fourth place, yet Juventus have so far retained their position largely due to the inconsistency of their direct rivals. ............ With two matches remaining, Juventus are level on points with Lazio and hold a one-point advantage over AS Roma. They lead Lazio on goal difference, which could prove decisive should teams finish the campaign with identical point totals. Like their immediate competitors, Juventus have two opportunities left to secure their place in next season’s Champions League. Their next fixture is against Udinese at home, a match that offers a promising opportunity for three points. If Juventus win that match and the following results occur, Lazio loses to Inter Milan, AS Roma loses to AC Milan, and Bologna fails to win away at Fiorentina, Juventus would secure fourth place before the final day of the season. ............ Such a scenario would make the final match of the campaign, against Venezia, effectively a formality. The team’s destiny remains in their own hands, and victories in their remaining two matches would guarantee their return to Europe’s elite competition. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/how-juventus-can-secure-a-champions-league-spot-before-the-final-game/
  7. From Spain: Juventus on the cusp of securing first summer signing on €35m deal Juventus are reportedly closing in on finding a final accord to sign exciting Girona left-back Miguel Gutierrez. ............ Cristiano Giuntoli and his collaborator will have to address this playing role, as Andrea Cambiaso and Nicolo Savona are both being linked to Manchester City, while the likes of Jonas Rouhi and Alberto Costa have yet to prove themselves worthy of a pivotal role at a top club like Juventus. ............ Juventus are reportedly willing to pay Girona €35 million, which represents the value of the release clause. The source also mentions that Real Madrid have also given the green light for the operation. Los Merengues sold their youth product to Girona in 2022, but retained a 50% sell-on fee. ............ It remains to be seen if this reported operation will have any implications for Arthur Melo who is currently on loan at Girona from Juventus. The Brazilian said he’s happy to play his football with the Blanquivermells, but his hefty salary remains the biggest obstacle standing in the way of a permanent transfer. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-deal-sign-miguel-gutierrez/
  8. Decision confirmed: Francesco Calvo has asked to leave Juventus Francesco Calvo has submitted his resignation to Juventus, signalling his intention to conclude his second tenure with the club. He rejoined Juventus in 2022 after holding positions at both Barcelona and Roma, having previously served at the Turin-based side from 2011 to 2014. Following the resignation of the Andrea Agnelli-led board, John Elkann appointed Calvo as Managing Director of Revenue and Football Development. ............ Despite his notable contributions, Calvo has decided to pursue a new professional challenge. Earlier rumours regarding his potential departure have now been confirmed. The report states that he will officially leave the club at the end of the current season. While his next destination remains uncertain, the same report suggests that he may be heading to the Premier League, with Aston Villa expressing interest in securing his expertise. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/decision-confirmed-francesco-calvo-has-asked-to-leave-juventus/
  9. Teun Koopmeiners expected to recover for Udinese clash Juventus midfielder Teun Koopmeiners is tipped to pull off a comeback against Udinese, while two of his teammates will be pushing for swift recoveries. The 27-year-old has been out of action since picking up an Achilles tendon injury during the win over Lecce last month. ............ Koopmeiners had been expected to return earlier, but wasn’t able to shake off this injury. Nevertheless, after one month on the sidelines, he’ll rejoin Igor Tudor’s squad for the club’s contest against Udinese in the penultimate round of the season. This will be a crucial fixture for the Bianconeri who must win their two remaining Serie A fixtures in order to prevail in the thrilling race for fourth place. ............ The Netherlands international has often been deployed as an attacking midfielder, but Tudor might field him in a deeper role, especially with Khephren Thuram serving a one-match ban, and Manuel Locatelli potentially filling in as an emergency centre-back. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/teun-koopmeiners-recover-juventus-udinese/
  10. Juventus Next Gen teenager will join the first team amidst injury crisis Juventus coach Igor Tudor will reportedly resort to the Next Gen ranks to address the deficiency at the back, calling up Javier Gil Puche. The Bianconeri still have two matches remaining before the end of the Serie A season, and they will be keen to prevail on both occasions to maximise their chances of securing the all-important fourth place. But unfortunately for Tudor, he will have to negotiate next Sunday’s meeting with Udinese with a depleted squad. ............ Teun Koopmeiners could regain his fitness in time, while Kenan Yildiz is back after serving a two-match ban, but Khephren Thuram, Nicolo Savona and Pierre Kalulu have all been ruled out through suspension. So the Juventus manager will turn to the Next Gen to add some depth to his squad. He’s expected to call up Gil Puche has who has emerged as one of the most exciting teenagers at Vinovo. ............ Gil made 28 appearances for the club across all competitions this season, contributing with a single assist. However, this wouldn’t be the centre-back’s first senior call-up, as Thiago Motta had added him to his squad for the two Serie A contests against Parma and Udinese between October and November last year, but he has yet to make an appearance for the first team. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-javier-gil-puche-first-team-crisis/
  11. Juventus set to punish Pierre Kalulu – Serie A campaign over? Pierre Kalulu has probably made his last appearance in Serie A this season after receiving his marching orders in Saturday’s big contest between Lazio and Juventus. ............ However, the Frenchman’s solid campaign in Turin has been blighted by the untimely howler he committed on Saturday. Kalulu was caught by the VAR hitting Taty Castellanos in the face, which earned him a red card following an on-field review. The Lyon youth product left Juventus with a man down to defend a 1-0 lead for more than 30 minutes at the Stadio Olimpico. While the Bianconeri held on admirably, their resistance was abruptly ended by Matias Vecino’s last-gasp equaliser which cost them two valuable points in the epic race for fourth place. Kalulu will likely be slapped with a two-match ban, similar to his teammate Kenan Yildiz who was also sent off for violent conduct last month against Monza. ............ Therefore, Juventus have been dealt another blow at a time when Igor Tudor is already suffering from a shortage of options at the back. Lloyd Kelly and Gleison Bremer remain on the sidelines, while Nicolo Savona will also skip the contest against Udinese through a yellow-card suspension. The Juventus management will retaliate by handing Kalulu a fine in the region of €60-70 thousand, albeit it would do little to make up for the damage caused by the Milan loanee. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-set-to-punish-pierre-kalulu-serie-a-campaign-over/
  12. Journalist on the ‘war’ of cousins: “Agnelli wants Juventus return, Elkann has two options” Italian journalist Michele Criscitiello discussed what he described as the ‘war’ between Juventus majority owner John Elkann and his cousin Andrea Agnelli. When legendary Juventus president and Italian businessman Gianni Agnelli passed away in 2003, his grandson Elkann emerged as the main heir. But since the 49-year-old had always been interested in business rather than sport (or at least football), he entrusted Agnelli with Juventus in 2010. However, his achievements were undone following a series of sporting, legal and political blunders, which eventually forced him to resign in November 2022 before being slapped with a sporting ban. Elkann then replaced Agnelli and the old board with some of his close collaborators, including Gianluca Ferrero and Maurizio Scanavino. ............ “Elkann is not a football man and is also failing the second chance that he gave himself,” wrote Criscitiello in his editorial. “He hoped for the disasters and failures of his cousin, he put his finger in where it was not needed and did not enjoy the years of triumphs. “Agnelli had his mistakes, of course. Who doesn’t make mistakes in 10 years of football? But he had brought Juventus back to the top. Starting from zero or minus one. ............ “Today, Elkann has two options, not three. Bring his cousin back and say goodbye to football once and for all, or sell Juventus, since no one has the passion and competence of the old Agnellis. “He should rule out the third option on his own: move forward with this senseless project. Juventus must always be a winner and never experimental.” . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/journalist-on-the-war-of-cousins-angelli-wants-juventus-return-elkann-has-two-options/
  13. Juventus name their price for Nicolo Savona amidst Man City links In recent hours, Juventus right-back Nicolo Savona suddenly emerged as a serious transfer target for Manchester City. ............ Juventus currently value Savona at €20 million, so any offers below this threshold won’t be considered. ............ The management hasn’t placed the player on the transfer list. But like the rest of the squad, every player has a price. So if the Premier League giants were to submit an enticing bid, Juventus would be willing to sacrifice the player for the sake of capital gains. This is a similar situation to Andrea Cambiaso who has been on Man City’s radar for months. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-name-their-price-for-nicolo-savona-amidst-man-city-links/
  14. Pedulla explains why Juventus have the advantage in Victor Osimhen race Juventus are reportedly ahead of the queue in the race to sign coveted Napoli striker Victor Osimhen. The 26-year-old spent four largely successful years at the Stadio Maradona, but his relationship with the hierarchy, particularly club president Aurelio De Laurentiis, deteriorated last season, which prompted a summer exit. ............ Osimhen is expected to leave Napoli for good in the summer, and Juventus have now emerged as a potential destination. In fact, Italian journalist Alfredo Pedulla reveals that the Lagos native has given the priority to the Bianconeri, as he would like to reunite with Cristiano Giuntoli, whom he considers his ‘football godfather’. ............ The transfer market expert mentions the striker’s €75 million release clause, but insists that it can only be triggered by clubs outside of Italy. . Nevertheless, the player’s will remains an instrumental factor. So while Napoli would like to sell him to a Saudi Pro League suitor (namely Al-Ahli), this track doesn’t truly entice Osimhen who wants to play at the highest levels. Moreover, the player’s contract will expire in 2026, which puts Napoli in a tough spot. ............ Therefore, Juventus will be looking to pounce on the opportunity and try to sign their long-term target, regardless of whether they reach the Champions League or not. Nevertheless, Pedulla warns that the negotiations could be long and exhausting, so patience is required. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/pedulla-explains-why-juventus-have-the-advantage-in-victor-osimhen-race/
  15. Douglas Luiz after controversy: ‘I love Juventus, just nostalgia for Aston Villa’ After his comments about Aston Villa sparked controversy, Douglas Luiz has tried to clarify that has no ‘desire to return’ because he ‘loves Juventus.’ ............ When he went on Twitch and spoke lovingly about what he had experienced with his former club, it made waves. “I miss Aston Villa, guys. I miss playing at Villa Park, I miss everything — it’s always in my heart,” said the Brazilian. Following the speculation over his future, Douglas Luiz took to his Instagram Stories to clarify the situation. “When I talked about Aston Villa, I was only referring to the affection I have for the place where I grew up as a man and a player, not to the desire to return,” he wrote in Italian. “One must not mistake nostalgia with the desire to return: I love Juventus and am totally concentrated on our objectives.” Nonetheless, the stories continue to circulate that Juventus will try to sell Douglas Luiz on at the end of the season, even if their chances of making back the €50m spent are very slim after such a poor campaign. ............ Nottingham Forest have been most strongly linked with a possible offer for the player, especially if they manage to qualify for the Champions League. . Read more -> https://football-italia.net/douglas-luiz-love-juventus-just-aston-villa/
  16. Grande amico di Ceferin. La coppa sará sua!
  17. Good news for Juventus as Udinese lose two key players for next weekend’s match Udinese have lost the services of two important players ahead of next Sunday’s clash against Juventus at the Allianz Stadium. While the Zebrette have little to play for at this stage since they currently reside in the middle of the table, this will be a must-win match for the Turin-based giants if they hope to maintain their chances of clinching the all-important fourth place in the league. Juventus must beat Udinese and Venezia, and hope that Roma drop points in their final three contests, beginning with Monday’s clash against Atalanta. ............ Udinese have also lost a couple of important players, as Lorenzo Lucca and Arthur Atta have both picked up their fifth booking of the season. ............ The 24-year-old showcased his clinical touch once more on Sunday, but scoring the Friulians’ solitary strike against Monza after come off the bench. ............ Lucca’s cameo also saw him collect his fifth yellow card of the season, so he’ll have to sit out the next contest against Juventus. The same goes for Atta who has now established himself as a regular starter as a regular starter in Kosta Ronjaic’s lineup in recent weeks. ............ Udinese will also be without the injured Florian Thauvin and Souleymane Toure. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/good-news-juventus-udinese-lorenzo-lucca-arthur-atta/
  18. How Juventus could line up vs Udinese without suspended trio Igor Tudor have major selection headaches to resolve ahead of next Sunday’s clash against Udinese at the Allianz Stadium. The Bianconeri are currently embroiled in an epic race for the fourth Champions League which also involves Roma, Lazio, Bologna, Fiorentina and possibly Milan. ............ Juve’s Roman trip yielded more problems than headaches, as three players earned suspensions for next week’s contest. Pierre Kalulu foolishly got himself sent off for hitting Taty Castellanos in the face, so the Frenchman’s campaign might be over already. Moreover, Khephren Thuram and Nicolo Savona picked up their fifth bookings of the season, so they’ll be serving one-match bans. ............ So how will Tudor cope with this emergency situation? Manuel Locatelli will play as a stopgap defender alongside Federico Gatti and Renato Veiga. With the Juventus captain dropping into a deeper role, Douglas Luiz should get a rare chance to start in the middle of the park alongside Weston McKennie. ............ Kenan Yildiz returns from a two-match ban to start as an attacking midfielder, likely alongside Nico Gonzalez, while Randal Kolo Muani should keep his place in attack. Juventus (3-4-2-1): Di Gregorio; Gatti, Locatelli, Renato Veiga; Alberto Costa, McKennie, Douglas Luiz, Weah; Yildiz, Nico Gonzalez; Kolo Muani. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/how-juventus-could-line-up-vs-udinese-without-suspended-trio/
  19. Capello: ‘Stupid’ Kalulu red card cost Juventus, ‘St. Gasperini’ favour needed Fabio Capello believes that Juventus were on course for victory against Lazio on Saturday up until a ‘stupid’ red card from centre-back Pierre Kalulu, which has cost Bianconeri control of the race for a Champions League spot and leaves them needing a favour from ‘St. Gasperini’. ............ As things stand on Sunday morning, Juventus are still in fourth, level on points with Lazio in fifth (both on 64), while Roma (63 points) are due to play against third-placed Atalanta on Monday. ............ Capello feels that Juve’s performance against Lazio at the Stadio Olimpico was ‘ruined’ by Kalulu’s red card, which he feels would not have even been sent for a VAR check in the Premier League. “The game was ruined by Kalulu’s sending off. Juventus started looking determined, they created dangerous situations for Lazio,” Capello said. “The Bianconeri paid for Kalulu’s stupid gesture. But these days the players throw themselves on the ground and hope for VAR, which, unfortunately, often rewards them. In England, they wouldn’t have even taken this incident under consideration. “The Frenchman’s red card changed the game and in the end, Lazio’s siege was rewarded with Vecino’s equaliser in the 96th minute.” Capello was also asked which team he thinks benefited most from the 1-1 draw between Lazio and Juventus on Saturday, to which he replied: “Those who are chasing, like Roma. Now Juventus no longer have the ball in their court. They must hope for Atalanta and St. Gasperini against the Giallorossi.” . Read more -> https://football-italia.net/capello-stupid-kalulu-red-card-cost-juventus/
  20. “I’m really happy here” – Juventus loanee keen to stay in Turin Juventus striker Randal Kolo Muani revealed why he’d like to stay at the club beyond his current loan spell. ............ The 26-year-old was off to a spectacular start, scoring five goals in his first three Serie A appearances, but then suffered a drop in form. ............ Kolo Muani may have boosted his chances of staying at Continassa next season, and he certainly hopes so based on the positive comments he made regarding the club. “I feel very comfortable here, I feel part of a real family, we’ll see what the future holds, but I’m really happy to be here.” said the attacker in his post-match interview published on the official Juventus website. Kolo Muani signed for Juventus on a dry loan, so the Serie A giants don’t have the option to buy him at the end of the season. However, several reports claim that the Bianconeri will eventually hold talks with PSG to understand if extending the player’s stay in Turin is possible in the current circumstances. ............ . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/happy-kolo-muani-keen-stay-juventus/
  21. Sensational report claims Man City agreed terms with Juventus youngster Manchester City have reportedly resorted to young Juventus full-back Nicolo Savona as they look to bolster their ranks for next season. The Premier League giants have been repeatedly linked with a move for Andrea Cambiaso over the past few months. ............ Nevertheless, Cambiaso’s recurring injury problems and his relatively high price tag may have repelled Pep Guardiola who reportedly turned to another Juventus man. According to journalist Santi Aouna, Man City have reached a verbal agreement with Savona who would be ready to join the EPL club next summer. The 22-year-old is a Juventus youth product who was promoted to the first team after impressing Thiago Motta in pre-season. ............ Savona has thus far made 36 appearances in all competitions, including 27 in Serie A, scoring two goals and providing one assist in the process. Nevertheless, the source reveals that the Juventus academy product isn’t Man City’s priority target to bolster the right-back spot. ............ But even if a transfer to the Etihad doesn’t materialise, the Aosta native might end up joining one of his other suitors. The list includes Bundesliga giants Borussia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen. . Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/sensational-report-claims-man-city-agreed-terms-with-nicolo-savona/
  22. Conoscendo Antonio Conte dico di sí.
  23. Peró il Napoli ha un calendario piú favorevole rispetto all'Inter. Torino-Inter e Napoli-Genoa Inter-Lazio e Parma-Napoli Como-Inter e Napoli-Cagliari
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