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  1. Sarebbe una novitá incredibile che gli arbitri ci regalassero qualcosa.
  2. Pundit tips Thiago Motta to thrive as next Juventus manager Juventus is reportedly considering Thiago Motta as a potential candidate for their next manager amid struggles with Max Allegri at the helm. ............ Motta, currently managing Bologna, has garnered admiration for his coaching abilities and has become a sought-after figure in European football. Juventus, being a prestigious club, maybe an enticing prospect for Motta, especially if the need for a coaching change arises. Simone Braglia, a pundit, suggests that Motta could work effectively with Cristiano Giuntoli at Juventus. “The Bologna coach is someone with ideas and I would see him well in Turin. “Giuntoli was already following him at the time of Naples therefore an important agreement could arise between the two.” ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/pundit-tips-thiago-motta-to-thrive-as-next-juventus-manager/
  3. Hellas Verona vs. Juventus match preview Let’s see if the month of February can get a little better. No matter what the result of the second Derby d’Italia ended up being, the next few games after that massive rivalry matchup for Juventus were looked to be very favorable ones. They were not only against provincial sides, but also ones who were very much struggling and toward the bottom of the Serie A table. It was, in theory, a way to either keep pace with Inter or potentially change the scope of the Scudetto race. ............. Hellas Verona are very much in the same kind of rut that Udinese found themselves in entering Monday’s matchup in Turin. Hellas are 18th in the table and looking every bit of a threat to be relegated. They’ve won two games since the first day of September — which, when you do the math, is all of three weeks in the new Serie A season. Their two wins since September — which, for the record, have come over the last two months — have come against Italian heavyweights Cagliari (currently 19th) and Empoli (currently 16th), so it’s not like they’re pulling any sort of upset victories or anything like that. Translation: It’s basically the same thing we said last week against Udinese — the last thing Juventus need to see happen is to drop points against a provincial side that is both struggling and statistically one of the worst in the league. ............. TEAM NEWS This will be Allegri’s 406th appearance as Juventus manager, the second-highest total in the history of the club behind Giovanni Trapattoni. Just as Danilo comes back into the squad following his one-game suspension due to yellow card accumulation, fellow Brazilian defender Bremer will miss the trip to Verona due to having to serve a one-game suspension after picking up a yellow in the loss to Udinese. Dusan Vlahovic is back in the squad after missing the game against Udinese due to injury. ............. While Vlahovic is back in the traveling squad, Allegri said at his pre-match press conference he still has yet to decide who’s going to start in attack. Allegri said that January signing Carlos Alcaraz is “working well” really like’s the Argeentine’s “desire to learn and his learning ability,” but felt like the loss to Udinese was not the right game for him. “I’m happy with what he is doing,” Allegri added. Fellow January signing Tiago Djaló has yet to make his Juventus debut, but Allegri said that he “will be a useful player between now and the end of the season.” JUVENTUS PLAYER TO WATCH ............. Yes, today we are going to spend a few hundred words as we talk about Daniele Rugani, a guy who is the odds-on favorite to step in for Bremer as the hulking Brazilian serves his one-game suspension this weekend. ............. This season, Rugani’s playing time has very much been limited; he’s played all of 661 minutes over 11 appearances (six starts) in Serie A. Throw in his Coppa Italia start against Salernitana last month and Rugani’s 12 appearances have gone like this: 10 wins, two draws and just for goals conceded. Of course, all of those clean sheets are not solely because of Rugani, but it is a sign that there’s no major dropoff between the defense when Rugani’s on the bench and in the lineup. ............. The good thing in all of this is that Rugani stepping in for Bremer is happening against Hellas Verona — one of the one of the lowest-scoring teams in Serie A — and not a few weeks from now against Napoli or Atalanta. So that part is good, and in theory Hellas aren’t going to be the massive task of slowing down without Bremer as other clubs in Serie A, big or small. ............. MATCH INFO When: Saturday, Feb. 17, 2024. Where: Stadio Marcantonio Bentegodi, Verona, Italy. Official kickoff time: 6 p.m. in Italy and the Central European time zone, 5 p.m. in the United Kingdom, 12 p.m. Eastern time, 9 a.m. Pacific time. Read more -> https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2024/2/17/24071536/hellas-verona-juventus-2024-serie-a-matchday-25-preview-team-news-schedule-how-to-watch
  4. Hellas Verona vs Juventus: Preview and Prediction Juventus are in danger of drifting further away from the title race, as Massimiliano Allegri will demand an urgent win over Hellas Verona. Two teams on opposite ends of the table will take on each other, with Hellas Verona having much to lose and everything to gain should they manage a favourable result. Marco Baroni’s men could only earn a draw against Monza last weekend, which extended their winless run to four games in the division. ............ With the Bianconeri also coming into the clash in a low form, Verona might sense this is the opportunity to get something from this clash, although in truth, it’s against the odds. Massimiliano Allegri will demand nothing but a win from his players, as he would have relayed to those stars the importance of three points at the weekend. For a brief moment, Juventus went top of the league when Inter Milan were away in Saudi Arabia, but things have gone downhill for the Turin giants since. A morale-sapping draw against Empoli was followed by a direct clash with rivals Inter Milan, which Juventus lost by a single goal. While they were not much far from the San Siro rivals, last weekend’s disappointing loss to Udinese at home dealt a big blow to their chances of catching up with Inter Milan. ............. Team News & Tactics Hellas Verona ............. Probable Lineup (4-2-3-1) – Montipo; Tchatchoua, Magnani, Dawidowicz, Cabal; Duda, Serdar; Folorunsho, Suslov, Lazovic; Noslin Juventus There are some selection headaches for Allegri before he names his lineup for the Verona clash away from home. for starters, the manager will have key defender Danilo back into contention, although the Bianconeri have lost Gleison Bremer to a suspension. In terms of injuries, only Moise Kean, Mattia De Sciglio, and Mattia Perin are missing from action, as Allegri will give a good enough squad to choose from. With Bremer absent, Daniele Rugani and Federico Gatti will join Danilo in that back three. Adrien Rabiot should tag alongside Manuel Locatelli and Weston McKennie in that midfield, while Andrea Cambiaso and Filip Kostic are likely to keep hold of their wing-back position. Up front, Dusan Vlahovic is still in considerable doubt with a thigh problem, although the forward might return to the squad and feature from the bench. Allegri might also choose Federico Chiesa in place of Kenan Yildiz upfront, as the Italian will likely partner with the experienced Arkadiusz Milik in the two starting front roles. Probable Lineup (3-5-2) – Szczesny; Gatti, Rugani, Danilo; Cambiaso, McKennie, Locatelli, Rabiot, Kostic; Milik, Chiesa Key Stats Verona have failed to win 20 of their last 22 matches in Serie A. Verona have failed to win any of their last 33 Serie A games against Juventus in Turin. Juventus have been drawing at half-time and winning at full-time in their last 3 matches against Verona in all competitions. Juventus have kept a clean sheet in their last 4 matches against Verona in all competitions. Juventus are winless in their last 3 Serie A games, failing to score in their last 2. Player to Watch Arkadiusz Milik ............. Prediction Hellas Verona 0-2 Juventus Verona have struggled since the turn of the year and they might continue to do so as well as keep their dreadful form against Juventus. However, while they might sense this could be the right time to face the Bianconeri, it could have the opposite effect, as Allegri will want an angry reaction from his players. However, Juventus have enough firepower to bounce back from their recent impasse and get themselves back in the title race. That could come at the expense of Verona, who are struggling and could continue to fire blanks in the league. Read more -> https://thehardtackle.com/round-up/2024/02/16/hellas-verona-vs-juventus-preview-and-prediction/
  5. Journalist says Juventus should now focus on fighting for a top-four finish Finishing inside the top four no longer feels like a good prize to Juventus’ supporters after watching their team challenge Inter Milan for the league title for several weeks. Juve impressively maintained their challenge for several weeks before they hit a poor run of form in the last few weeks and they have now been urged to forget about winning the league. ............ While looking up, Juve must also consider those behind them as just a point separates them from AC Milan in the standings. This is why they have to start winning again and journalist Fabio Tavelli insists now is the time for them to work hard and secure a top-four finish. “When you are second you have to try to look at the one above and not the one below, but the ranking says that Juventus have lost three points on Milan and must look at fourth place and no longer first. Championship? It could only be reopened if Inter says to give it away but frankly it seems impossible to me, so I’d say it’s finished.” ............. Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/journalist-says-juventus-should-now-focus-on-fighting-for-a-top-four-finish/
  6. Allegri tasks his players to pay more attention to detail against Verona Winning against Hellas Verona is not negotiable for Juventus this weekend, and Max Allegri knows it as he prepares his team for the fixture. Juve’s bubble bust in their game against Empoli, and they have since gone on a three-game winless run, losing the last two. This has jeopardised their chances of winning the league, but not winning the next game could be the start of something worse. ............ Max Allegri was discussing his team’s struggles in recent games and revealed they just need to pay attention to detail on the pitch to get back to winning ways. “We will continue to play like this, three negative results are not going to change what we have done so far. THE tactical revolution of 2017 was in a different context, now there is no need to change. We paid in the details, conceding goals after the ball was inactive or starting again” ............. Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/allegri-tasks-his-players-to-pay-more-attention-to-detail-against-verona/
  7. Verona manager expects Juventus to be on their best form tomorrow Verona manager Marco Baroni is well aware that Juventus will be determined to secure all three points when the two teams meet in Serie A tomorrow. Juventus is currently facing a challenging period with three consecutive games without a win, making the upcoming match against Verona crucial for them to regain momentum. ............ Ahead of the match, their gaffer, Baroni, said: “These teams, when they have already made mistakes, then know how to find pride and unity, we know that tomorrow the best Juve will be there. It’s a great opportunity, everyone would like to play matches like this.” ............. Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/verona-manager-expects-juventus-to-be-on-their-best-form-tomorrow/
  8. Four Juventus players out but star striker returns as Allegri names squad list for Verona game Gleison Bremer is suspended while Mattia Perin, Moise Kean and Mattia De Sciglio are still injured, so they won’t be available for Juventus in a Serie A game against Hellas Verona on Saturday. ............ Dusan Vlahovic missed Monday’s Serie A game against Udinese in Turin but has recovered from a slight muscle injury and is expected to start in Verona on Saturday. ............. Read more -> https://football-italia.net/official-four-juventus-players-out-but-star-striker-returns-as-allegri-names-squad-list-for-verona-game/
  9. Which Juventus players are at risk of leaving in the summer? The upcoming summer transfer window will be a crucial period for Juventus as they aim to continue rebuilding their squad. ............ Allegri contends that only some of his players are at the level required to make the team champions, prompting the potential departure of several Juventus players when the transfer window reopens. Paul Pogba is certain to leave at the end of the term or even before, depending on his verdict. Alongside the Frenchman, players such as Fabio Miretti, Samuel Iling-Junior, and Hans Nicolussi Caviglia will also be made available for transfer, allowing Juventus to raise funds for acquiring more established players. Moise Kean, whose loan move to Atletico Madrid failed last month, may also be offloaded as he is no longer a crucial part of the club’s plans. ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/which-juventus-players-are-at-risk-of-leaving-in-the-summer/
  10. Former Juventus star explains how Yildiz can play with Chiesa Former Juventus player Emanuele Giaccherini has expressed admiration for Kenan Yildiz, who has emerged as a significant player for the Bianconeri in the current season. Yildiz had been making a notable impact on the pitch for Juventus’s youth teams and had been pushing for inclusion in the first team. ............ While Yildiz has been utilised as an alternative to players like Federico Chiesa or Dusan Vlahovic, his emergence signifies a promising future for the young talent within the Juventus ranks. Giaccherini believes the three of them could start together and explains: “The coach is Allegri, but I would have Yildiz and Chiesa play behind Vlahovic. I like Yildiz a lot, finding such a strong 18-year-old is difficult: he has personality, technical quality, he plays with the team…”. ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/former-juventus-star-explains-how-yildiz-can-play-with-chiesa/
  11. Juventus Eye Pair of High-Profile Veteran Midfielders Juventus are looking for some experience ahead of their Champions League return and set sights on two stars who will potentially be out of contract in June, Toni Kroos and Jorginho. The German ace has yet to decide his future. The Real Madrid linchpin is weighing his options, including an early retirement since he’s 34. If he elects to keep playing and wants a change of scenery after nine years in Spain and four with Bayern Munich, the Bianconeri will make their proposal. While the contract of Kroos runs out at the end of the season, Arsenal can pick up an option to re-up with Jorginho without negotiating with the player, which might quell Juventus’ interest. He and director Cristiano Giuntoli spent four seasons together at Napoli from 2015 to 2018. The Italian regista then moved to Chelsea for €57M and eventually to Arsenal last summer. ............ Read more -> https://cultofcalcio.com/juventus-eye-pair-of-high-profile-veteran-midfielders/
  12. Hellas Verona vs Juventus: Preview Juventus travel to the Stadio Bentegodi to face Hellas Verona on Serie A Matchday 25, and both teams will be eager to rediscover that winning feeling again. The Bianconeri are in second place with 53 points, but they are seven points behind Inter, who have a game in hand. La Vecchia Signora have lost their last two matches and they have not won since they won 3-0 against Lecce on Matchday 21. Meanwhile, the Gialloblu are 18th with 19 points, but they are just one point away from safety. They held Monza to a scoreless draw in their previous match, but they have not won in their last four Serie A games. After their surprising 1-0 defeat to Udinese, Juventus cannot afford to be complacent against Hellas Verona. Dropping more points will hinder any hope of them winning the scudetto, and the Gialloblu need points, so they can drag Sassuolo into the relegation zone. On paper, it may seem one sided, but both sides have a lot at stake in this fixture. Hellas Verona vs Juventus: Predicted line-ups Juventus will miss Moise Kean and Mattia Perin due to injuries while Dusan Vlahovic is not expected to return after missing out on the defeat against Udinese. If the Serbian striker does feature, he would be one yellow card away from suspension, and Gleison Bremer is currently suspended. ............ This match will unlikely be one in which the two teams will cancel each other out because of the systems used and not only the quality the players on the pitch. Gialloblu coach Marco Baroni will implement a 4-2-3-1 formation, and he is likely to bring Tomas Suslov back into the starting line-up after he was suspended against Monza. His Bianconeri counterpart Massimiliano Allegri will stick with his preferred 3-5-2 formation. He will be able to bring Danilo back into the defence after he was suspended and Arkadiusz Milik will probably start in attack despite his disappointing performance against Udinese. Hellas Verona predicted XI vs Juventus (4-2-3-1): Montipo; Tchatchoua, Dawidowicz, Coppola, Cabal; Serdar, Duda; Folorunsho, Suslov, Lazovic; Swiderski Juventus predicted XI vs Hellas Verona (3-5-2): Szczesny; Gatti, Rugani, Danilo; Cambiaso, McKennie, Locatelli, Rabiot, Kostic; Milik, Chiesa Hellas Verona vs Juventus: When does the Serie A fixture start? Kick-off in the Serie A Matchday 25 fixture of Hellas Verona vs Juventus is set for 18:00 CET, local time in Italy, on Saturday, February 17............. Read more -> https://total-italianfootball.com/hellas-verona-juventus-preview-kick-off-time-where-to-watch-on-tv-online-serie-a-23-24/
  13. Vlahovic reacts to Juventus’ defeat against Udinese Dusan Vlahovic regrets that he was not available for Juventus against Udinese and urges his teammates to remain ‘united’ to ‘give their best.’ Vlahovic was unavailable on Monday when Juventus suffered a 1-0 defeat against Udinese at the Allianz Stadium, losing the second consecutive match in Serie A. Vlahovic reacted to the Old Lady’s loss with an Instagram story on Tuesday evening. “I am sorry for the result and because I could not go on the pitch with my teammates. We win and lose together. United to give our best,” wrote Vlahovic. ............ Vlahovic partially trained with the rest of the team on Tuesday morning and has returned to full group training on Wednesday. ............ Read more -> https://football-italia.net/vlahovic-reacts-to-juventus-defeat-against-udinese/
  14. Bremer is for sale, but can Manchester United afford him? In recent weeks, numerous reports have linked Gleison Bremer with a potential move to Manchester United at the end of this season. The Brazilian defender has played a crucial role at the Allianz Stadium since joining Juventus from Torino. However, in football, every player has a price, and Bremer could be subject to a transfer if Juventus receives a compelling offer for his signature. Manchester United has emerged as a serious contender for his services, demonstrating a genuine interest in acquiring him. ............ The defender is likely to leave Juventus if Manchester United is willing to initiate negotiations starting from 70 million euros. Given United’s status as one of the wealthiest clubs globally and Bremer’s importance to Juventus, the Bianconeri anticipate a substantial and favorable offer for his transfer. ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/bremer-is-for-sale-but-can-manchester-united-afford-him/
  15. Alex Sandro ha 320 presenze (come Trezeguet) con la maglia della Juventus, Pavel Nedved 327. E se Allegri volesse fare uno sgarbo a Pavel, colui che lo ha cacciato dalla Juve anni fa? Basterebbe far giocare ad Alex Sandro altre 8 partite fino alla fine della stagione per farlo diventare il giocatore straniero con piú presenze in bianconero e fargli superare il ceco. Maximilianus Diabolicus
  16. Allegri’s tactical blunders are piling up – 10 mistakes in last three Juventus matches After collecting a single point from a possible nine in the last three encounters, Max Allegri’s work is coming under great scrutiny. Journalist Andrea Ajello enlists ten tactical mistakes that the Juventus coach committed throughout the negative run. We begin with the 1-1 draw against Empoli when the manager opted to start with Arek Milik alongside Dusan Vlahovic, thus dropping Kenan Yildiz to the bench. As we all know, this proved to be a major mishap, with the Pole earning his marching orders in the 18th minute for a rash challenge on Alberto Cerri. ............ In the major showdown against Inter, Allegri refused to unleash an attacking trident, preferring to bring in Federico Chiesa at Yildiz’s expense, while his team remained barren in the attacking phase. All in all, the over-cautious approach the team adopted in the Derby d’Italia left a bad taste in the supporters’ mouths. Moreover, the journalist picks up five mistakes that the coach committed in last night’s defeat at the hands of Udinese, beginning with the inclusion of Alex Sandro instead of Daniele Rugani. The Brazilian’s defensive howler gifted the visitors the solitary goal of the match. Allegri also kept shifting with his formation which hardly helped the cause, while Chiesa and Yildiz were both drifting to the left and stepping on each others’ toes. The Juventus manager also took out Andrea Cambiaso who was the team’s most dangerous player to give Leonardo Cerri his debut, but the wingback’s exit left the young striker short of service. Furthermore, Carlos Alcaraz remained on the bench despite a positive week in training. ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/allegris-tactical-blunders-are-piling-up-10-mistakes-in-last-three-juventus-matches/
  17. Allegri still has the backing of John Elkann despite recent Juventus slump Juventus coach Max Allegri still reportedly holds the esteem and support of the club’s majority owner John Elkann. The Bianconeri started the season on a positive note, emerging as Inter’s ultimate challengers for the Scudetto crown. But after collecting a single point from their last three fixtures, their title aspirations have been comprehensively shattered. Besides the negative results, the team’s displays have been utterly poor, especially in terms of creating chances. Juventus had given Allegri the authority to decide his own future. He can choose to put a halt to his time at Continassa at the end of the season or sign a contract renewal. ............ The patron still sees the Livorno native as the ideal coach to achieve the club’s current objectives, which is above all qualifying for the Champions League. ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/report-allegri-still-has-the-backing-of-john-elkann-despite-recent-juventus-slump/
  18. Boost for Juventus as Dusan Vlahovic returns to training ahead of Verona match Juventus received an important boost on Tuesday morning with Dusan Vlahovic rejoining the team’s training at Continassa. The Serbian was recognized as the best Serie A player in January after scoring six goals during the first month of the season. However, his February started on a low note, with a disappointing outing against Inter in the Derby d’Italia before sustaining a muscular injury. The 24-year-old could only watch from the stands on Monday night as his teammates succumbed to an unexpected defeat at the hands of Udinese. ............ Vlahovic also took part in the session, partially training with the group. Nevertheless, the source expects the bomber to return to full throttle starting Wednesday morning. This would be a necessary step if he aims to recover in time for the weekend’s meeting against Hellas Verona. ............ Despite missing several matches due to various injury problems, Vlahovic remains second in the Capacannoniere stands with 12 goals to his name. He’ll be looking to overcome his most recent knock and spearhead the club’s charge as they search for a compulsory victory in Verona. Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/boost-for-juventus-as-dusan-vlahovic-returns-to-training-ahead-of-verona-match/
  19. Arrigo Sacchi weighs in on Juventus mental collapse: “They felt inferior to Inter” Legendary Italian coach Arrigo Sacchi explains the Juventus meltdown against Udinese from a psychological standpoint. The Bianconeri lost a direct Scudetto showdown against Inter last weekend at the Giuseppe Meazza by one goal to nil. But while that result was hardly shocking, few expected Max Allegri’s’ men to suffer a defeat at home at the hands of Udinese. Juventus looked short of ideas as they failed to reply to Lautaro Gianetti’s opener. Udinese managed to maintain their slim lead until the final whistle. For his part, Sacchi believes that Juve’s two recent defeats are intertwined with one another. ............ “Did I expect Juve’s collapse? If I say yes, I’m being presumptuous,” said the former Italy and Milan coach in an interview. “But I have to admit that the defeat against Udinese, in my opinion, is the result of the defeat at San Siro against Inter a week earlier. So, something could be felt in the air. “At San Siro, Allegri’s boys gave their all and understood that they were inferior to Inter. “These are matches that leave their mark on you, both physically and morally. Once you understand that winning the Scudetto is unlikely, they perhaps let their guard down a little. “Furthermore, Juve have a very young team with little experience. They don’t have leaders. This is a factor that takes its toll in the long run. ............ Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/arrigo-sacchi-weighs-in-on-juventus-mental-collapse-they-felt-inferior-to-inter/
  20. Juventus wingback Cambiaso admits “lack of determination” in Udinese defeat Juventus wingback Andrea Cambiaso tried to understand what went wrong for his team against Udinese on Monday night. The Bianconeri put up what could well be their poorest display of the season, as they failed to score a single goal against their Zebrette at home. Max Allegri’s men have now suffered their second straight defeat, leaving their Scudetto hopes in tatters. For his part, Cambiaso was arguably the best out of an abysmal bunch. ............ “There was a lack of determination and luck.” said the former Genoa man in his post-match interview. “They closed us down well, we were slow to the ball. We have our own path to create, continuing as we have done so far. However, a point in three games is not enough. It is a moment of decline, but we have to remain focused and work hard, with our heads held high, with confidence. ............ The Bianconeri remain second in the table, but Milan are sitting only one point behind. Juve’s next fixture is an away encounter against Hellas Verona on Saturday evening. Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-wingback-cambiaso-admits-lack-of-determination-in-udinese-defeat/
  21. Player Ratings: Italian press whip Allegri and his Juventus stars following Udinese defeat The major Italian news outlets thrashed Juventus following their 0-1 defeat at home against Udinese on Monday night. ............ Tuttosport – Szczesny 6; Gatti 5,5, Bremer 6, Alex Sandro 4; Weah 4,5, Mckennie 5,5, Locatelli 5, Rabiot 5,5, Cambiaso 6,5; Milik 4,5, Chiesa 5; Yildiz 5,5, Allegri 5. giornalaccio rosa dello Sport – Szczesny 6; Gatti 5, Bremer 6, Alex Sandro 5; Weah 4,5, Mckennie 4,5, Locatelli 5, Rabiot 5, Cambiaso 6; Milik 5, Chiesa 5,5; Yildiz 5,5, Allegri 4. Corriere dello Sport – Szczesny 6; Gatti 5,5, Bremer 6, Alex Sandro 5; Weah 5, Mckennie 5,5, Locatelli 5, Rabiot 6, Cambiaso 6,5; Milik 5, Chiesa 5; Yildiz 5,5, Allegri 5. Calciomercato.com – Szczesny 6; Gatti 6, Bremer 6,5, Alex Sandro 5; Weah 4,5, Mckennie 5,5, Locatelli 5, Rabiot 6, Cambiaso 6; Milik 5, Chiesa 5,5; Yildiz 5,5, Iling 5,5; Nicolussi Caviglia 5,5; Allegri 4,5. Read more -> https://www.juvefc.com/player-ratings-italian-press-whip-allegri-and-his-juventus-stars-following-udinese-defeat/
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